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>>2500 comet) Velikovsky and the Decline of Medieval Cosmology [Articles]
... thing that modern astronomers have indulged in is trying to explain what periodicities these were, and what they look for is commensurabilities between planets, that is you've got Jupiter and Saturn going round and at some time they will line up in the sky, you see a conjunction, and then it happens again many centuries later and such an alignment ... ever since, and astronomers have for a long time been accustomed to thinking that it's turning into an Apollo asteroid, getting fainter. Now the really interesting thing about Encke's Comet and Hephaistos is that they've got the same orbit, very nearly, they've got the same size orbit, one of them is moving out there like that and the other one is moving out there like that, but otherwise the characteristics of the orbits are extremely similar, and it's very difficult to avoid the conclusion that in fact one broke off from the other. It's not well known, but an American astronomer called Whipple decided long ago that Encke's Comet was there because it was a fragment of a break-up of a comet not so long ago, in fact he calculated that there was a comet in Earth-crossing orbit that broke up round about two and a half thousand BC____. He calculated that from Encke's Comet and the meteor stream that is also visible and known to astronomers. Perhaps I had better also just mention that. It's called the b-Taurid meteor stream. Meteors are another astronomical thing related to shooting stars. When one looks in the sky one sees on occasion lots of flashes which are in fact little lumps of dust coming in from outside the Solar System. We know that these streams arise at particular times in the year due to the fact that as the Earth orbits, it cuts across these meteor streams which almost certainly are the vestiges of past comets. The b-Taurid meteor stream is rather a conspicuous one and has proved extremely conspicuous within the last ten years as a result of the Apollo shots of the Moon. You may or may not know that

>>2500 flip) Thoth Vol I, No. 3: February 18, 1997 [Journals] [Thoth]
... : EDITORIAL SECTION...........................Michael Armstrong SATURN THEORY, OVERVIEW (3 ). .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. David Talbott AGE LIMITS ... spinning top, and showed that the observations indicated that the axis of the earth was stabilizing in a new position after the entire earth had turned over about 2,500 BC____ (or whatever his particular dating of the Flood was). I also have to admit that I have not yet checked out the mathematical accuracy of a paper sent

2500- Sun glyphs) Suns and Planets in Neolithic Rock Art [Journals] [Aeon]
... pp. 67-70; "The Birth of Athena," AEON II:3 (1990), pp. 25-28. 68. See here D. Talbott, The Saturn Myth (New York, 1980); D. Cardona, "Intimations of an Alien Sky," AEON II:5 (1991), pp. 5-34 ... these petroglyphs Anati writes: "The most ancient Valley carvings dealing with sun worship belong to the end of the Stone Age, to the second half of the third millennium BC____. At that period the sun is drawn as an isolated disc; seldom is it accompanied by a person with hands upraised in an attitude of prayer, or by

>2450 pyramid) Monitor [Journals] [SIS Workshop]
...  the possibility of anonymous referees settling old scores or burying rival research. ASTRONOMY Dusty comings and goings New Scientist 20.5 .95, p. 30, 9.9 .95, p. 5 and Science Frontiers No 98, Mar-Apr 95, p. 1 One researcher has presented evidence that the Earth passed through an interstellar dust cloud only 2000 to 8000 years ago. The cloud is thought to have been shot into space about 250,000 years ago by a supernova and would have caused climate changes and a change in the flux of cosmic rays impinging on Earth. Meanwhile there is still plenty of dust around in the Solar System but not always where expected. Spacecraft Galileo, on route to Jupiter, found very little in the asteroid belt but has now encountered a gigantic dust storm near Jupiter. The unlikelihood of the rings of Saturn being as old or as stable as their planet leads to the suggestion that they come and go over the short term. What could replenish the ring material? Passing ... No. 4,Aug. 95, pp. 161-164 A summary of the characteristics of the Great Pyramid which can be used for dating purposes follows the dating of 2450 BC____ +/ - 60 years as derived from Bauval and Gilbert's book The Orion Mystery. The analysis relies on the prior assumption that the true' date must be around

>>2309 Eg.calamity) Society News [Journals] [SIS Workshop]
... the mythical world mountain. Astronomers are at present very interested in the object Chiron, a cross between a comet and an asteroid, which is in a chaotic orbit beyond Saturn. Estimates are that it will come sufficiently far in to the Solar System within the next 50,000 years to do very nasty things. It already produces a ... through this, to evaluate the traditions themselves. For example, Manetho's tale of a great calamity in the reign of Semempses of Egypt's first dynasty could be dated at 2309 BC____. This not only tied in with Chinese stories of catastrophe in that year, but biblical reckoning back in time from the elevation of Joseph to power also gave a

>>2300 Venus) Abraham and Phallicism [Journals] [SIS Workshop]
_From: SIS Chronology and Catastrophism Workshop 1988 No 2 (Jan 1989) Home | Issue Contents Abraham and Phallicism by George R. Harvey
_Two seemingly unrelated events occurred during the biblical Abraham's lifetime which were strictly phallic in nature: the first Scriptural recording of the religious practice of circumcision and the drama at Sodom concerning a male homosexual act. Proponents of Dr Immanuel Velikovsky's theory of an upset Solar System give many instances of religious ceremonies which can easily be explained as the attempt by a terrified people to appease the gods or angels by imitating or otherwise relating to the astronomical phenomena they witnessed [1 ]. I wish to propose a similar explanation for the two phallic events. These may have been two different, already old, ways of trying to relate to the heavens after Saturn's loss of the column which appeared to have reached from Earth to Saturn. The heavens needed to be assuaged in Abraham's day because of the obvious danger from above which was to culminate in Sodom's destruction. I lean towards the arguments of those who believe Venus was the agent of Sodom's destruction and the source of the sulphur which rained from heaven.
_Background. There are myths which have the phallus as part of the drama. In an Egyptian story [2 ], Osiris, identified as Saturn [3 ], was torn into fourteen pieces by the avenging Seth who dropped the pieces into the Nile. Mournful Isis, Osiris's sister-wife, identified variously as Jupiter [4 ] or Venus [5 ], hunted for the parts and reconstructed Osiris from them, except for his **** which could never be found: it had been eaten by three species of fish; the Lepidotus, the Phagrus, and the Oxyrynchus. Fish of the latter type were frequently mummified and their likeness used in Egyptian sculptured decorations. The priestesses of Isis were obliged to carry models of the genital organ in all their ensuing ceremonies. Isis caused a magnificent temple to be built to Osiris wherever a piece of his body had been located. There is a myth that Kronos castrated his father, Uranus. Cardona's assertion that Uranus was Kronos, [6] would mean that Kronos castrated himself. Tresman & O'Gheoghan write that Shiva cut off his own phallus and that this was probably associated with the worldwide worship of the phallus during the time of Jupiter's dominance [7 ]. Cardona quotes from a Phoenician myth: ". .. on the occurrence of a pestilence and mortality Kronos offers his only begotten son as a whole burnt offering to his father Uranus, and circumcises himself, compelling all his allies to do the same." [8 ] Perhaps all of these stories are different descriptions of one cosmic event. Many advocates of the theory of an upset Solar System argue that the generally accepted scenario should be simplified, and they agree considerably on details. One such proponent is David Talbott. The aspect of his work which relates to my thesis concerns the stories encountered throughout the world of a shining peak or column which once rose from Earth to the centre of heaven [9]. Talbott considers that this phenomenon, which occurred during the time Saturn dominated the world, was a visible light stream which somehow appeared to reach between Earth and Saturn. He would have the column at different times as the holy mountain (Zion and Olympus are the most familiar examples), Atlas (supporter of the sky vault), the masculine serpent, the great wind or breath, the cosmic river, the one-legged giant's leg, the great mooring post, and Saturn's phallus [10]. Talbott asserts that the latter was so identified by the ancients not only from its shape but also for its association with the cosmic womb which surrounded Saturn. He and Cochrane believe that during the time of Saturn's supremacy this womb-ring was the planet Venus with a trailing plume which appeared to be in orbit around Saturn. They would have Isis/Venus as the wife-mother of Osiris/Saturn [11]. Velikovsky believed that Saturn dominated the world during its golden age [12]. ____Saturn would have exploded as a nova at the time of Noah, thus causing the Flood, and was no longer paramount. Much of the material of the diminished Saturn was gathered up by Jupiter which increased its mass and would have been the dominating heavenly body at the time of Abraham. There is, however, considerable disagreement as to which planet might have been the agent of destruction in Abraham's day. I favour Venus for the following reasons: 1. Newgrosh has presented strong evidence for Venus having been celestially active and probably destructive to Earth at c.2300 BC____, i.e ., at an earlier date [13] 2. The priestesses of Isis were associated with the phallus of Osiris 3. Talbott and Cochrane are convincing that Isis, the mother-wife of Osiris/Saturn, is Venus. Jupiter, which seems to have been the dominant celestial body of the time, was probably benign and did not threaten the Earth. Newgrosh related that the sulphur [in the Sodom story] may have come from Venus since it has a high concentration of sulphuric acid in its atmosphere [14]. Scripture first mentions circumcision when, on a single day, this act was performed on Abraham and all the males of his house, as a covenant with God [Genesis 17]. However, it is generally agreed that its practice was begun before Abraham. Its purpose is unknown, with theories ranging from sanitation to a blood sacrifice substitute. It is certainly not an operation which would be performed casually on adults because of the pain and the risk of haemorrhage and infection. An Egyptian act of circumcision is portrayed pictorially and with an accompanying text in a 6th Dynasty tomb relief [15]. The text identifies the operator as a funerary priest', which would suggest the religious significance of the act. Most chronologies place Abraham well after the 6th Dynasty, an order which indicates that Abraham might have learned about circumcision from the Egyptians. Legend records that Sodom's destruction took place on the third day following Abraham's circumcision [16], and this would surely indicate a relationship between circumcision and Sodom's demise, as both Cardona and Newgrosh point out. Circumcision is one religious, phallic practice which has survived until today, but there is at least one other. Models of the sacred lingam of one of the Hindu trinity, Siva, receive tribute in temples [17]. The Lingayat members of the Saiva Hindu sect wear the symbol [18]. Millions of Hindus associate the cobra with the sacred lingam, and worship it in the hope of fertility [19].
_The Drama of Abraham and Lot
_The very number of stories about Saturn's lost **** seems to indicate that Saturn had a pronounced projection which disappeared. The one of huge dimension described by Talbott seems reasonable. Circumcision would have been a means whereby mankind could relate to Saturn after its regrettable deprivation, since it involved the most closely related act which could be inflicted on all the males of a society in order to imitate Saturn's condition, and thus show sympathy and reverence. A related purpose might have consisted of showing sympathy to Venus for its mate's loss, especially if Venus was the agent of destruction. Without any explanation of why it occurred at that particular juncture, the Scripture relates that Abraham initiated circumcision on his household males in a single day as a covenant with God and, because of what it reported next, it would seem that the reason for the act was the impending danger from the sky. There is no intimation of a connection between the two passages, but immediately after

>>2300 Inanna) Forum [Journals] [SIS Review]
... fit. But 171 years is 80.08 synodic periods of Mars, over 60 degrees out of phase. 4). The synodic periods of Mercury, Venus and Saturn are all better divisors of a 684 year period than that of Mars, in that after that period all three planets will, on average, be closer to their
... cometary and catastrophist attributes both in earlier and later periods. In 1985 in an article on Enheduanna's hymn' (dated to the reign of Naram-Sin, conventionally c.2300 BC____) I cited Inanna's astral and yet terrestrial aspects and argued the case, independently of anything Velikovsky had written, for ____Enheduanna having witnessed a catastrophe caused by the deity Inanna. Much has been written about the paradoxical nature of the goddess in mythology. She can be the deity of both love and war, of beauty and destruction. To which I can add (of the goddess Inanna) she can be both astral and yet terrestrial, cometary and yet (in the same era) the Evening and Morning Star. Is there any way of understanding these paradoxical features? Is it possible, for instance, for a comet like Encke to have tangled with the planet Venus (then on a stable orbit like at present) thus giving the impression that the Morning/Evening Star had a cometary tail or beard? Is this possible on the Clube and Napier hypothesis? The comet could have detached from the planet and headed Earthwards at some time but just how would ancient man have viewed this situation? Would he have made the distinction between the predictable planet and the errant comet, or not?

>>2300 meteors) The Ring About The Earth at 2300 BC____ [Journals] [SIS Review]
From: SIS Chronology & Catastrophism Review 2001:2 (Jan 2002) Home | Issue Contents The Ring About The Earth at 2300 BC____ Moe Mandelkehr Summary As postulated in earlier papers, dust in the Earth's North Polar region at 2300 BC____ initiated widespread geophysical changes. The dust was a result of the Earth encountering a massive meteoroid stream
... of ring formation, I could spend a lot more time on schemes that won't work than anything that will. Four planets in the Solar System - the outer planets, Saturn, Jupiter, Neptune and Uranus - have rings, although the rings differ in orientation, configuration and composition. There is general agreement that the formation of the rings ...

>2300 Draco) The Reflective Canopy Model and the Mytho-historical Record [Journals] [Aeon]
... the present Saturnian one(s ). And this, of course, is in keeping with presently-known mechanics as they pertain to tidal forces. The rings around the planets Saturn, Jupiter, and Ur-anus are prime examples of this force. And, in fact, this can also be demonstrated by the recently discovered toroidal dust belt that appears ... ." (55) The same name was additionally applied to two stars in the constellation Draco (56) and, since Draco had been the polar constellation around 2300 BC____., some authorities have assumed that this proves that Chinese observational astronomy dates to at least that remote time. Be that as it may, the term "pivot

>>2300 climate) SIS Silver Jubilee Conference: Abstracts [Journals] [SIS Internet Digest]
... . Moreover, unlike your classic long period comet, because of their proximity and energy, these plasmoids may not be totally benign. Lynn E. Rose: Sirius and Saturn A more careful reading of the Canopus Decree enables us to retrocalculate Sothic dates much more precisely than ever before. Middle Kingdom lunar documents fail to fit in the second ... argued by the geologist/oceanographer team Ryan and Pitman. The massive upheavals and climate change which destroyed the Early Bronze Age civilizations of the Near East (c. 2300 BC____ conventional dating), Mainstream archaeology has now accepted this event, though it yet has to embrace an exoterrestrial cause, such as the cometary debris model long argued by

2300 Akkad) Society News [Journals] [SIS Workshop]
... Talbott for producing what he considered the best mythological consideration so far of the Polar Divinity, and then to bury him for his planetary explanation, now widely known as The Saturn Scenario'. This he proceeded to do in a most constructive way, by presenting us with an alternative scenario, copiously illustrated with slides and a superb model of ... theory were correct then not only should it be supported by pottery sequences but all other technologies as well. He had recently assessed the pottery records for Akkad, supposedly 2300 BC____, the Hyksos, supposedly 1600 BC____ and the Assyrians, supposedly 800 BC____. The latter had no pottery record and the former two were identical, as well as

>2300 Jericho) Monitor [Journals] [SIS Workshop]
... Wilson followed this idea up, using computers and new mathematical techniques, he discovered that over very long time scales regularity became chaos. When the perturbing influences of Jupiter and Saturn were taken into account, what had been regular asteroid orbits in the "Kirkwood gaps" became increasingly eccentric. The asteroids now began to cross the orbits of Mars ... desert (Anati envisages several centuries) or the 969 years of Methuselah's life. He notes archaeological evidence for walled cities at Ai and Jericho, destroyed in the 23rd century BC____. Despite this, there are enormous chronological difficulties in accepting this third millennium BC____ site as that of the Exodus Lawgiving. Clearly, Anati has discovered a major cultic

>>2300 flip) The Celestial Dynamics of "Worlds in Collision" [Journals] [SIS Review]
... . There are reasons for believing that the solar system is close to a resonance, and all satellite systems that have been observed - for instance, those of Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus - are also resonant systems. Orbitally unstable: This means that a slight change in the initial conditions can produce a large change as time devolves. Let ... , which most people would think would be valid for thousands of years. His interpretation of his data indicated that the Earth is recovering from being turned upside down around 2300 BC____. I haven't studied this enough to know what significance to place on these ancient observations or on the accuracy of his interpretation of the data, but I am impressed

2300 Ebla) Focus [Journals] [SIS Review]
... From the End of the Eighteenth Dynasty to the Time of Ramses II', closing the gap; CARDONA: " 'Let There Be Light'" with more on Saturn as primary and as nova; GREENBERG & SIZEMORE: "Jerusalem - city of Venus", with massed evidence for the site of the city as an ancient astral ... . A link has now been discovered between Ebla and Egypt. A cartouche was found belonging to Pepi I, a pharaoh of the Sixth Dynasty, dated to about 2300 BC____. This confirms the date assigned to the Ebla civilisation, which is the period 2400 BC____ - 2250 BC____. The total of cuneiform tablets so far discovered at the

>>2200 colder) Monitor [Journals] [SIS Review]
... form. Jupiter's moon Io seems to have suffered a volcanic eruption between March 1994 and July 1995, as it now shows a huge yellow spot around a known volcano. Saturn New Scientist 21.10.95, p. 20, Newcastle Herald (Aus) November 1995 Recent observations of Saturn's rings have shown that some moons have disappeared ... Europe 500 years ago, may have been the most recent. An archaeologist has related one of these colder more arid phases to the end of the Akkadian empire around 2200 BC____ when, he suggests, refugees from drought-stricken northern Mesopotamia swamped the civilisation further south. Societies from Greece to Pakistan collapsed at the same time and the effects were probably

>>2130- Aries) Planet of the Greeks by Meres J. Weche (Book Review). C&C Review 2002:1 [Journals] [SIS Review]
... section describes in detail the Heliopolitan (Khemet) Cosmology+ Cosmogony as the very first creation account. The 5 epagominal days are connected to the 5 planets: Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Mercury, Venus; the last two bringing catastrophes. Narmer is stated to be the 1st pharaoh of unified Egypt, 250 years before the 1st Dynasty ... labours = the Zodiac. The precession of the equinoxes giving a constellation every 2160 years was interrupted by a catastrophe. Weche gives his version of zodiacal ages: Aries 2130-1559 BC____; Leo to 1135; Taurus to 776 with an extension to 612. Egyptian animal worship was part of a priestly mystery system, concealing profound knowledge of precession.

>1953 conj.) The Cosmic String of Pearls [Journals] [Aeon]
... .Using computers to back - compute the planetary orbits, Pang and colleagues settled on a date in late February 1953 BC____ when Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn came within only five degrees of one another (close enough that they could be blocked out by a thumb held at arm's length)." [50] It ... were strung together like a string of beads

1593 spring) The "drift" Mystery Cleared Part 3 Ch.VII (The Mysterious Comet) [Books]
... the commonweal of the remainder. I have often believed that this philosophy lay behind the custom of the ancients to offer human sacrifices, in the belief that the deity, Saturn or Baal, or other such gods, required to be propitiated with human lives. The greatest epoch of such an encounter with a celestial body which we possess traces ... the Spring Equinox, Measurer of Time, has moved through 48 to 49 points since the day it was in Alpha Ceti, a calculation points to a period between 1593 BC____ to 1522 BC____. The period is confirmed in other directions. Tradition says the world was destroyed in the month Daesius (May), when the sun rose in

1500 vol.) Abbreviations, Glossary and Bibliography [Books] [de Grazia books]
... afterglows. Age of Jovea is the period following the Deluge (about 5700 BP) to the time of Mercury's encounter with the Earth circa 4400 years ago. Age of Saturn brackets the period eight thousand to fifty-eight hundred years before present. Age of Urania is the first age of the Quantavolutionary Period, assigned to run from 14000 to 11000 ... in it. Plinian eruption is the most violent volcanic eruption known. It is of almost incomprehensible violence such as the eruptions of Stronghyle (believed to have occurred in 1500 BC____), of Vesuvius (in AD 79) and of Krakatoa in 1883. polymorphs are organisms which during their life cycle undergo a transition (metamorphosis) between forms

800- Vel.) The River of Ocean [Journals] [SIS Review]
... . Who, or what, did this entity represent? Circular serpent motif on the interior of a food basin from Sikyatki in the South-western United States. Reproduced from The Saturn Myth [26] with the kind permission of David N. Talbott The water-enclosing serpent from the Codex Cortesianus (illustration: D. Cardona) 3. The Encircling ... of the planets visible to the naked eye must have been involved. This is not what Velikovsky portrayed as having taken place during the catastrophes of the 8th and 7th centuries BC____. Furthermore, nothing is said in the original about the bright snake gaping in the heaven above'. The line in question, from the Voluspa, simply has

687 Vel.) Trisms and Planetary Iconography [Journals] [Velikovskian]
... on the Saturnian polar configuration will recall how he identified a form that I call a trism as the shape formed by the intersection of the polar mountain and the enclosure of Saturn. (5 ) For certain artistic representations, I will accept Talbott's identification; for others, I will use my own. The following examples illustrate the trism: ... (1994) Home | Issue Contents Trisms and Planetary Iconography (1 ) Charles Raspil According to Velikovsky, a long period of planetary chaos ended with stabilizing finality in 687 BC____. (2 ) Concentrating on celestial events occurring after that date, I have been finding iconographic and literary evidence that periods of sporadic planetary instability may have characterized the